12. Meet Your Cohost: Richard Pham

Franchise Friday is BACK, you filthy little scream queens! And guess what? We’ve got a brand new cohost, and they’re hot, hilarious, and definitely not afraid to get messy on mic.

Meet Richard Pham—Brooklyn’s favorite plant daddy and this season's co-host of chaos. In this kickoff ep, Crybaby makes him spill the tea on his horror origin story, his plant-doctoring prowess, and his deeply cursed talent for burping into microphones.

Oh—and did we mention we finally reveal which iconic horror franchise we’ll be ripping apart this season? 

It's giving growth. It's giving gags. It's giving g-g-g-GAY!

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It's like this is like a deep therapy session. Yeah. Thank you. Of course. I'm also, I'm excited to hear what you think. My goal is to activate at least two of your brain cells by the time we are done with this. That's a lot. That's, I might explode. I think we can make that happen. I think we can make that happen.

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What is your book of Well, hanging out with your Smartest and Funniest Friend. You know me, I'll kill

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anybody, but.

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Hey Cuties, and welcome back to Horror Icon, your queer playground for all things scary, sexy, and stupid. Y'all know me, I'm crybaby the spooky slut from your wettest nightmare. And today we are joined by a brand new face here for our franchise Fridays. Everybody say hello to Brooklyn's favorite plant Daddy, Richard Pham plant Daddy MD, right? Yes, yes. Plant Daddy MD. Hello everyone. Yes, rich. I'm so fucking excited to have you here. I'm really excited to be here. Alright, so everybody, we've been talking about this for almost a month now, right? Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And just the minute I was just like, Hey, Richard, are you a horror girly? Uh, yeah, I am. It's just been flooding my phone with ideas and just like, oh, the day I asked you, you watched the first two movies of the franchise we're covering? I did, yeah. Yes. Yeah, I just, I, whenever summertime hits mm-hmm. I always like revisiting some of my favorite teen horror movies. So one of them, of course is Should I reveal it? Yeah, go for it. Pop it out there. I know what you did last summer. Oh, I bet you do. Yes. I'm so excited for this. And can, I mean, there's, if you're only listening to this, if you're not watching, there's a huge visual cue. I'm sitting here wearing my Helen Shivers best. As close as I could get a little hairy chested, but we're good. I, I mean, the tits are great, so thank you. Thank you. She's very ample. I grew them myself. Well, welcome. I'm so excited to have you. I'm so excited that the horror icon audience gets to, uh, get to know you. They get to meet you and spend some time with you because Richard's a fun time, everybody. Oh, thank you. Yes. No, absolutely. I mean, it started well, yeah. When did we meet? We met when you worked at the plant shop. Yes. Yes. The one right around the corner. Yeah. Uh, I had just quit my job at Sephora, everybody, and I walked into this plant shop and I was just like, yeah, I just quit my job. And you leaned over the desk and you're just like, isn't quitting a job fucking great? You're like, good for you. I fucking love quitting a job. And I was just, it's a lot of fun. It's like a final, like, you know what? Fuck you. Exactly. Can I say that on here, please? Okay. Fuck yes. All, all of the fucks here. It's so funny. Everybody that comes on, they're just like, can I curse? And I'm like, absolutely, please do. And the first thing they say after I say, they're just like, fuck yes. It's liberating. It is liberating. but yeah, no. And then that same day I was asking you how to make a garment out of plants ethically. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you hit me up like two weeks later for the botanical ball. Yes. Yes, I remember that. Yes. And that's just kind of how it all started. That's how we got here. Yeah. That's how we became friends. Yes. So like I always do with franchise Friday with the first episode, it's all about you. Before we even get into the movie, I want everybody to get to know you. Of course.'cause you're fantastic. You're wonderful people. Aw. You know what? I'm just going to, right outta the gate, let's talk Plant Daddy md. Yeah, because that's your big baby right now. It is my baby. Yeah. So tell us about it. So Plant Daddy MD is a business that I found this year where I go to people's homes and businesses and I doctor their plants. I. So this could be house plants, indoor plants, outdoor plants. I also do plant sitting, plant maintenance and plant styling. Plant styling, plant styling. So if you have like an overgrown, like 16-year-old fiddle leaf fig and it is windy, it is bent, you don't even know how to shape it. Mm-hmm. Give me a call. We kind of look at what the structure is and we remake it into something that is a little bit more beautiful to look at, but also safe for the plant as well. Oh, I didn't even think about that. Yeah.'cause there's a lot of older plants that people don't know what to do with later down the line. Yeah. And when people, I think a big thing is that when people get into house plants, they don't realize, whoa, this thing lives for a long time, possibly forever. Mm-hmm. So I help out mature plants by kind of making them look. Aesthetically beautiful. there are many beautiful things that you could do. Many beautiful things. That's really cool. I didn't know that. I didn't know about plant styling. Of course. I the doctoring totally. I've killed unfortunately, a good handful of plants in my life.'cause it's one of those things where I, so many people wanna be plant gays. Lots of us wanna be plant gays. But the aesthetic of being a plant gay is completely different than the reality of being a plant gay, where you have to really know, you know, what direction your window is facing. You know, what plants need this and when, and like, where can I put this one where I had no idea. Still kind of don't, I'm gonna hit you up for some classes or something. Oh yeah. Always, always. Do you offer classes? I, I would love to start doing workshops. Mm-hmm. I'm in talks of some different businesses around the area that would love to host me. I just have to, to write out the lesson plan. So you'll definitely be invited. You all are invited. Yes. Yes. Welcome. No, that's exciting. you've always been super, super knowledgeable and I'm so happy that you're getting the opportunity to share that knowledge with the wider city area. That's great. That's great. I, I feel that New York City is such a specific environment. So when you look up. Plant care, plant tips on just Google or the internet. You're gonna get so many different opinions from people. But the thing is, is that not all of those opinions are gonna be correct. Mm-hmm. You need to have someone who understands what it's like to live in New York City, to be in a really, really crowded apartment, ac heating rods, that type of environment. Mm-hmm. And honestly, New York City plants are the strongest plants. Oh, are they? Because we have to endure everything. That's true. You know what I mean? Like they, they literally are torched like this past week. But then also you have to deal with air conditioners blasting on them. Mm-hmm. We have winter, we have long winters. Tight spaces, windows that could possibly be block blocked by another building. So you talk to a gardener who perhaps lives in California. Much more open space, much more sunlight, more temperate. Versus here where things change and when things change, they fluctuate as well, but also extreme. But that honestly yields some of the strongest plants. That's good to know. Yeah. What doesn't kill you? Make you stronger it sounds like you're the hero that New York needs for their plants. So I do. Um, yeah. I always like imagining myself as a little bit of a superhero. I agree. Well, that's kind of how I envision you I feel like we need to, uh, install like a plant signal in this city just to like shoot into the sky. I would love that. Would it be a picture plant? What would it be? Oh, would it be. I think it would be, oh, a picture. I mean, a picture plant would be funny, but people would probably think it's a dick dick. That's true. Oh goodness. Well,'cause I know you have picture plants, right? I do have picture plants, carver plants were one of my favorites. Same. The killer plants, of course. Yes. Carnivorous plants are so horror icon coated. They are, they are. So tell me, what do you love about carnivores Plants? I love carnivores plants because there's a, a eerie ear beauty to them at the same time. So there's like this kind of, I feel that carnivorous plants are very, very romantic in a way. there's something almost. Erotic about them? Yeah. I'cause they, yeah,'cause like how they move, how they lure their prey. I was gonna say they're very seductive. Yeah. Yeah. They're very like, come over here. Like even like even humans, we are entranced by them. Like I, when you see a Venus fly trapps mouth, you want to look in there, you want to poke it, but you never wanna do that with any other plant. But somehow out with that plant you want to do it to. Yeah. In a picture plant, you want to look inside of that picture, what's going on in there? I do. So even to uh uh, pray that it's too big for the plant to eat, even we are lured into them. Mm-hmm. And I think that's kind of, kind of beautiful and kind of sexy in a way. I agree. Mm-hmm. I have always been enamored of carnivores plants. I just find them so fascinating. I. In my mind it's like, oh, the tables have turned now the plants eating. Yeah, yeah. You know, like kind of jokes on you. But I remember as a kid, like I couldn't wrap my mind around a, a salad eating of human is how I thought about it when I was a kid. Yeah. Like the salads eating me. Oh, but fun fact, most risk plants are non-toxic. Really? Yeah. So like you can eat one. You can eat one and be perfectly fine. Isn't that funny? I don't know if I'd want to though. I don't think I've ever eaten one. Yeah. I don't like eating my kids. I was gonna say, So you have a picture Plant, Venus, fly Traps. Pitcher, plant, Venus flytrap. I have Sundus. They have like little tentacles. Yeah. And they have like little stickies on the 10 and then they wrap up their prey like a little fruit rollup. Oh, fruit rollup or fruit by the foot. Fruit butter. Okay. Yes. That's so funny. I have butter wart. Which one? What, what are those butter warts kind of look like? Your traditional succulents, like the eve rosette, succulents. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But instead of like a smooth leaf, it's a sticky leaf. So it's like a, a sticky trap. Oh. Oh, that's so cool. I might have you come back outside of franchise Friday and just talk about carnivorous plants. Oh. So we might do that. Let me know everybody if you want that. Or I might just do it for me. That might just be like my own little gift and we just dissect the plants together. Yes. So, I am curious about,'cause you talked about plant styling and I view you as a creative person. I mean, especially now with, you know, you're running your business, you're managing social media mm-hmm. So what's your creative process like? for my content, for my videos, I always like to be number one educational. I want people to be able to take away. One, two or three tips from each video. Mm. So even though things are packaged up in a very humorous and sparkly a DHD style mm-hmm. At the end of the video, I still want you to be able to be like, oh, I know how to take care of a snake plant now. Mm-hmm. I know how to, prune back this plant. I know. How to take care of a carnivorous plant. Mm-hmm. I love people taking away information mm-hmm. In a fun way. So first and foremost, education all the way. But I like things that are very quick. Mm. Snappy, funny. I think that's the best way for people to learn is when something comes out quickly, catches your attention, but also you're able to retain knowledge at the same time. Yeah. And it takes a special skill to be able to do that.'cause not everybody is able to master brevity in that way. It takes that, yeah. It takes a lot of, a lot of takes. A lot of people don't see, like when they, when they watch my videos, they're like, oh my God, this seems so like, fun and flowy. But not a lot of people see what happens behind the scenes., Dirt flying everywhere. Pots knocking over wigs. Flying off. Oh, okay. Well let's talk about that you did something that was really fun. I think it was yesterday or maybe the day before you did the top three gayest plants. So tell me about that video, because like, where did the inspiration come from? The idea for coming up with gayest plants mm-hmm. Was, I know that a lot of my friends have sent me videos of like, oh, this person says like, this plant is gay, this plant is this, and I'm watching it, and I'm just like, oh, it's not, it's not hitting, it's not hitting. I mean, like, yeah, this flower's a lesbian, but why? Mm-hmm. Or like, you know, these are bisexual. I, I, I, I appreciated the idea, but I wanted people to go a little further. and I think when I used to work at the plant store, we also had discussions of what, what's a gay plant? What's a lesbian plant? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so it just be kind of like this inside joke So it was a, a perfect storm, and I said, okay, I think it's time for me to make my top three gaze plants. So my top three gaze plants, number one is a Rex Pogonia. It's like really, really like, like frilly and floy and frill and floy. Huge leaves, spiraling leaves. Tons of color. Really, really big. Like they're grown for size. and there, so she's a size queen. She's a size queen. She's a size queen. Everybody, but also a total thumb. Okay. Listen, we love it. I love it. I love vert the bitches. Yeah. And so, and a deeper dive too, is that the Rex Pogonia names? Gay. Really? So for instance, you have, Jurassic Watermelon, Rex Pogonia Persian Swirl, raspberry Sherbert, double El Paso Fire Flush. Dule, like, wait, is that really a thing? Yes. Like if you look up, these are like drag queen names. They're drag queen names. Like if you look up the, the varieties of Rex boas, all of them gay. That's great to know. You know, a gay man was involved with the naming process. Perfect. So that's number one. That's number one. And number two. Number two I would say is a variated snake plant. Okay. So you think you're getting like a regular snake plant Uhhuh, but no, no, no, no, no. Looks can be deceiving. Ooh. This one actually requires a little bit more light than your usual snake plant. Okay. So it actually is more higher maintenance. Oh, she's a queen. She's, yeah, she's a queen. Okay. So, you know, like I, I feel like whenever you're like on grinder, you, you soap, like hey, you like, but then right when they, they come over, they fucking drop their pants. And put their bath butts in the air. Yep. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Gabe, I feel that Okay. Yeah. So we we're talking like the bait and switch. Yeah. Like the, the DL trade, that low key wants you to put it up there. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. So that is the variegated snake plant. Okay. And then my third is Venus Tie Trapp. I'm here for it. Obvious reasons. Mm-hmm. But the biggest reason is that there's a musical written about the Venus Fly Trap, So this plant loves musicals. Okay. Gay gay's. Gay. Good. Good, good, good. Gay, gay. Well, thank you for sharing. I loved that video. It was so much fun. It was, you're right. It was so sparkly and frenetic. And I mean that in the best possible way, everybody. So we talked about what's the, what the gayest plants are. Mm-hmm. I'm curious to know which plants are the most horrifying in real life. Oh, one would think carnivorous plants, right? Carnivore, carnivorous plants, of course traditionally. Mm-hmm. You think are very, very horrifying. first thing that comes to mind about the idea of horror is what I see when I doctor people's plants. Oh. So it's not actually the plant that's horrifying. It's what people do to the plant. That's horrifying. Okay. That's where my mind goes when I think of horrifying plants. Okay. So, well, let's talk, so when I think of a horrifying plant, I think of the first image that comes to my mind. Is a mushy, rotten snake plant over watered and not like over. Yeah. Drained properly. And the thing is, is that if you ever experienced a over watered snake plant and one that's rotting off, number one, the stench is horrible. Oh. It smells like rot. And when you touch the leaves, literally they melt off in your hands and they become all stringy and mushy. That's, it's disgusting. It's just like when you leave all of your vegetables in the good intentions drawer in your fridge and you forget about'em for like three weeks. That's the kind of texture, that's the kind of stuff, but it's not even cold. It's warm. Ew. Yucky. Okay. That is pretty horrifying. It's pretty horrifying. This is the body horror part of the, this is body horror. This is Gore. This is Cronenberg, this is Gore. Oh yeah. I think a rotted snake plant Okay. Close mention is also any plant that is infested with a kind of pest. Oh yeah. So One example was, I was, uh, I was doctoring this really, really old cactus in industry city. Beautiful, beautiful office, beautiful room. And they're just like, was something's wrong with our cactus? We just don't know what's wrong with it. So I go over to the cactus. I'm like, wow, what a beautiful ghost cactus. Mm-hmm. He's like, yeah, yeah. I was like this cool, White powder to it. It's really nice and like creepy. We love it. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, yeah. I've never seen one this big before. I take a closer look though. That's not, that's not a shade of white. It's scale. Scale is a pest that kind of forms this hard, Shelly outside Uhhuh. But this scale, instead of being traditional brown or a dark color, it was translucent. So I looked, it literally, this whole thing was covered in this translucent skin. Wild. And it was all pests. Like literally the pests have created an exoskeleton outside of this cactus. And the only way I could get that scale off is with a screwdriver. And I peeled off one like sliver uhhuh of it off. And we saw the true color of the cactus. It's green underneath. Disgusting. That's, that's for some reason hearing that, I just imagine it like, on my skin and I immediately get the heebie-jeebies, I think of like the flesh eating bacteria. Like, oh my God. Like, like in like parasitic kinda shit. Whoa, whoa. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's, that's horrifying. We need to change. What do I do for a living? Horrifying. What you do for a living, nor I, all right. I'm gonna change the subject before I get disgusted. let's talk, we're gonna talk a little bit about queerness.'cause it is pride, everybody. Mm. What queer stereotype do you most embody? Oh, I'm really extra about things. Yes. I realized, I realized that just thinking about like, okay, what is, what is just something you do all the time. I go the extra mile mm-hmm. To do the most ridiculous things. Fair. So, for instance, when I stretch, it's not. It's ah, you know what I mean? When I sit, it's not just sitting, it's leaning. It's a little pose. Okay. There's a flo to it. There's like a, how do I make this more fabulous, even if I'm not speaking? I love that. I just have to be a little, I love that. Just a little extra. Putting a little extra sugar on it. Just a little dusting a little bit, just a little dusting. I love doing that, in a situation, like at the gym when I'm not even talking, but like how I put back a weight, I love that. I just live, live, I live and love doing little extra things. Just a little bit more. Yeah. It's like, yes. I will take an extra ketchup packet as you, as you should. Yeah. Oh. so we, you're a horror girly. Yes, yes. Yes. When did you get into horror? So, I grew up with horror movies. Okay. Meaning that my parents loved horror movies. So my moms used to watch The Exorcist. Poltergeist. creep show was also, I fucking love creep show. Oh. Was also on t uh, on the TV growing up. Mm-hmm. So I was always surrounded by the horror genre. But it wasn't until the nineties when I actively chose Yes. Everybody, this is the content I'm here for. Do it Again. Um, it wasn't until the nineties that I actively chose to watch a horror movie. Okay. And my first movie of choice was Scream. Oh, what a, what A movie to come outta the gate choosing Ugh. I remember going to the movie theater mm-hmm. At my mall. Mm-hmm. When the malls used to be happening. Oh gosh. Yeah. I, I miss'em all. Little side note. Yeah. I miss'em all. But yeah. So you went to the mall, you saw, went to the mall, Uhhuh went to the movie theater there, saw Scream, and I was like, this is amazing. But I was too young to understand like, what it represents. I was like, oh my God, why am I so into this? Mm-hmm. Um, so that was kind of my, uh, my gateway horror. That's on that. That's a good one. Yeah. Even if you don't understand the, the context, you know, or the landscape that that movie was released in and how it breathed so much fresh air into the horror genre mm-hmm. Outside of its impact. It's such a good movie. It's How old were you when you watched it? like 1996? 96 I think. Yeah. I 10. I was like eight or nine when we first watched it. We first watched it at home. We were a blockbuster house. Oh yeah. Wait, how did I get in there? Because it was rated at R, right? Yeah. Did anybody take you? No, my parents dropped me off. They were like, here you go. Did you maybe just like the classic movie hop thing maybe? Yeah. Oh no. I used to do shit like that. I love that shit. Anyway. When did horror start feeling queer to you? I think maybe recently. Really? Yeah. Okay. Let's talk because I'm a little bit of a. I don't really think about things. I think I was having this discussion with one of my friends, like Richard, you are so brilliant with plants. Mm-hmm. Like body and horticulture, but everything else, you're kind of like, you're a little bit of a ditz. I think that's the gay stereotype that we embody. Wait, whatcha talking about? I'm really smart. Oh, I'm so smart. You are smart. So smart. Listen, you can be smart and not use it. True So recently is when it Recently, yeah. Okay. I think actually through you probably because you were like, well like, oh this, this is so queer. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, I knew that. Mm-hmm. But like when I went home after the coffee, I was like, wait a minute, did I understand that or just did I just agree to something? No, that's so funny. So I'm so I'm still figuring it out. Yeah. Oh no. And this is a great place to figure that out too.'cause we're just gonna be. Obviously I'm gonna be throwing shit out there. Please do. By all means. Yeah. I wish to be educated. Yes. And your opinions of course, are welcome as well. If there's anything that you, oh, you'll be hearing it. You'll be hearing it, of course. Whether you like it or not, this mic is on. Now you grew up watching horror. Was there one that scared you the most as a kid? Ooh, I think the one that scared me the most was probably Child's play. Mm-hmm. Oh, specifically this, I think it's Child Child's Play two. I think you have to, you have to remind me.'cause Tell me. Tell me what scared you about it. It's still okay. It's when they were in the Toy Factory. Two. Yeah. Yeah. And they start putting like plastic things into Chucky. Oh, so good. And then like he fills up with and then there's the conveyor belt and he comes out all mutated and shit. Yeah. Yeah. That freaked me out as a kid. Child's Play two is my favorite child's play movie. I haven't released the Cult of Chucky episode yet. Mm. But we do like our final wrap up on the child's play series. And if memory serves correctly,'cause I'm a Gemini, my opinion changes with the wind, but I'm pretty sure at the time I said that child's play two is my favorite one. Yeah. It's so good. Oh, I'm a Virgo. You're a Virgo. Virgo. Oh yeah. We're both mutable signs. Yeah. Yeah. I fuck with Virgos. Oh yes. I love a Virgo. So. Wait, Virgo and then my rising is Leo. Okay. I'll forgive you. I'll forgive you. And my moon is in Leo too. Oh no. everybody. I'm sorry. We're gonna have to find a new co-host. I shoved out the window. No, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I, I do, I love Leo's. The problem is there's, there's a handful of Leos out there that don't like me. I'm sorry. It's just the tea That's so mean. It's Well, do you want me to talk to'em? No, no, no. Please don't. I Do you want me to say something? They're gone. It's it, they're gone. It's fine. No, I think what it is is there's just, there's certain Leos out there that hate the fact that I effortlessly pull attention and Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's kind of what it is. That's the tease. They don't like that. So, Listen. And I fuck with fire signs. It's fine. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. I just. I have like post Leo traumatic stress. I mean, understandably so. Mm-hmm. Understandably so. Okay. But I think that you the's Okay. The, the Virgo. Honestly, the Virgo is what saves me. It really is. Because the thing is, is that like Leos are all like showboating and shit, and like, no, no, no. But a Virgo a Virgo is a thinker. So I Didn't you just say that you don't think that, I don't know why you're coming after. Why are you coming after this? Shut it down. Shut it down. Shut it down. Shut it down. I know what you didn't do last summer. I did too much. I really didn't do much. I would not be a good character in this. Oh, very nice. Oh, I know you did. Actually, I didn't do anything. It's like, you, you know, you know what I did last summer? I don't even know what I did yesterday. So thank you. Yeah, thank you. Do you wanna tell me? Please tell me. Please tell me. Oh, no, it's okay. We Virgo. It's all forgiven. What horror trope do you absolutely live for? Like, what's your favorite trope in horror movies? A define trope. She's a thinker. Everybody. She's a thinker. A trope is something, oh my God. Realize that's stupid. No, no, no. This is great. No, I'm being, but I'm being honest. No, it's fair. A trope is just like something that you see a lot. not necessarily cliche, but it's, it's a type of occurrence that happens in horror movies, for example. You will have sex and then you will die. Ah, okay. You know, uh, if you smoke weed, you die. It's just something that you, that's very formulaic. You see it a lot in horror movies. Okay. You know, um, what are some other ones? Why am I drawing a blank right now? Uh, well, the Final Girl. The finer girl, like the finer girl in itself is kind of a trope. the slasher having, a phallic weapon. Oh. Somebody going in, oh, running upstairs instead of going out the door, splitting up. You know, those are, those are tropes. Okay, okay. You know? And you also think of like character types. Like you have your, your stoner character. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, you have the final girl, you have the shitty boyfriend, things like that. My favorite trope is probably the bad girl. The Bad girl. I love a good, bad girl. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We love a bad girl. She's, she's always like the one that's always paired up with the innocent one or the virgin. Mm-hmm. And she's just like the badass, she's like the bad influence. Love the bad girls. I think of my favorite bad girl. This is horror. It's not slasher, but my favorite bad girl is Faith from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Oh, yes. Yes. I'm rewatch, I'm doing a Buffy rewatch right now, everybody, which I'm super happy.'cause SMG is in this movie that we're talking about. She is. Oh, wait. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. No, no, no. She has no, she has no, she, sorry. I like I fast, I fast forwarded. Oh my God. So fucking funny. Uh, So I'm on se I just finished season three, so Faith is Fresh on my mind. Faith is my favorite character in that whole franchise. Uh, that whole, the series. I love Faith. I mean like, uh, of course I love Buffy. Yeah. Oh yeah. Everyone loves Buffy. Everyone loves Buffy. I and Willow too. I love Willow. I love Willow. Willow. Yeah. Who would be my favorite though? I kind of like Giles. Giles is great. They're all great. Yeah. They're actually all except for Xander, if you stand Xander. Oh, no, no, no. That's cool. Yeah, we, he's like a, Joss Whedon has admitted himself. Xander is a self insert and it shows. Yeah. Although I did think he was kind of cute, like I did too, specifically in, It was at season two. It was when he joined the swimming team episode, the swim team. Oh my God. How did you know what too? Because same. I was like, oh, what a loser. And then right when he joined the, I was like, actually, hmm. Yeah, it's the episode's called Go Fish. It's the episode before the, the two part season finale think's like episode 20. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, we get a nice little slow mo shot of him in the Speedo. I get it. I was like, ah, it's Xander. And in the nineties, the objectification of males like that wasn't that common. So I get it. I 100% get it. I'm curious to know how I'm, this is gassy. Lemme have some of that. I feel like I need some now I know I'm not this bel. I don't know why you just bring it outta me. It's the gas. Yes. I bring gas outta people. I need to get on board with you. Ugh. There we go. Not as good as yours. Yours is deeper. It is cute. Thank you. Yeah, I'm just, keep it cute. I'm just a woman. Keep I'm just a dainty little woman. do you have a guilty pleasure horror movie? Mm-hmm. Like a horror movie that you enjoy that other people don't or that you feel like you shouldn't enjoy? I really liked Megan. Is that considered a horror movie? Uh, it is considered a horror movie. I don't think that's a guilty pleasure though. But that's fine. Everyone like it? Yeah. Everyone, yeah. Megan's Cty. I'm trying to think like, what's something that no one likes? I think of things like Evil Bong or, um, oh, okay. Okay. You've opened the door. Yeah. Okay, great. there's a movie called Santa's Sleigh. I haven't. Have I seen it? It's really bad. Okay. I think Chris Catan is, is in it. Okay. It's an all star opening cast Uhhuh. Oh, is that the one with fucking friend? The nanny? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. When she's like Santa. Yes. I think that's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't seen it, but I've heard about it. It's pretty bad love. And like, there's a claymation like part of the movie, like it's really bad. One of the most ridiculous twists is that Santa Claus can like throw fireballs out of his mouth. It was, it was really weird. the protagonists were like running away from Santa. Like, ha ha, get, take that Santa and Santa goes. Sorry about, that's wild. That is wild. I do have to see that movie. It's really bad. I will say though, I'm a slut for Claymation. I love claymation. Like stop motion claymation, that kind of stuff. It's a, it's an art form. If they throw it into a movie, it doesn't matter how good or bad it is. I'm gonna, I'm gonna appreciate the fuck out of it, everybody. I'm gonna appreciate the fuck out of that. I'm gonna, I have to wait. I refuse to watch any kind of Christmas or holiday horror until the holiday until Yes, yes, yes. So we're gonna put a pin in that. Everybody, everybody listening at home and watching at home. Put a pin in that we're all gonna watch Santa Slay this season. And when you hate it, go ahead and uh, shoot Richard a dm. I'm gonna do a burp count. I'm gonna do a burp count everybody. I'm not even kidding. whatever burps, make it into the edit. at the end of our season together, I'm going to let you know how many times you burped into my microphone. All right, everybody. Cha, challenge, accept, challenge, acceptance, challenge accepted. I've already lost count. Editing. Cry Baby Future. Cry baby out there. Have fun with that. You committed to it on camera. Is there a horror movie that is. Critically acclaimed one that is generally said to be good that you don't like. Yes. Yes. Okay. Um, Nosferatu, you didn't like Nosferatu? No, that was kind of boring. Okay. That's fair. You don't strike me as a period girly though. No, no, no. Definitely not. I'm like, why does, why does the quality look so bad? Eggers is very much about like, transporting you back to a historically accurate piece of time. Mm. So I get it. The dialogue can be kind of dry, but you didn't like how horny it was. I didn. I You didn't like, you didn't like the Nosferatu dong just being slung all over the place. I just, I literally was cleaning my kitchen while watching it. Okay. Yeah. I was, listen, listen, the judgment, I'm not judging you. I get it. Okay. Here. No, no, no. I get it. Because when I first watched it, I. I wasn't sure. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't sure if I liked it or not, you know? I had to sit with it and then I went back and watched it again and I'm like, okay. Like, it was good. Mm-hmm. It's not as good as everybody said it was, but like, I liked it. Yeah. I fucking love the cinematography in it, I think. Oh, okay. Oh, you're coming from like a film perspective. Yeah. I can get the story kind of gig and, you know, some of the acting wasn't the best. Yeah. So no judgment here. It's hard to get me like to watch a movie though. Like I will get, I wonder why I will get distracted. I'll get distracted really easily. Yes. I can tell I'm really distracted. Like if something doesn't hook me in within like 30 seconds, I'm like, ah, I have to change this. Okay. Fair. Yeah. So everybody, if you ever want to get Rich's attention, you got 30 seconds to do it. You got 30 seconds. All right. I always feel bad on like first dates with guys. Oh gosh. I'm like, don't, don't ever feel bad about a first date with a guy. I never feel bad on a first date ever. First off, I'm just gonna be honest. It's impossible to get me on a first date. Really? Yeah. I just, I dunno how to explain it without sounding like a bitch, but it's just, I have so much going on in my life right now. Yeah. So much that I'm working on. You know, I have a wonderful group of friends and I have such a rich number of platonic, enriching relationships that I don't find myself. Actively searching for a romantic partner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and that's not to say that I don't want one, like I'm not a romantic. I very much am into it, but I just, it it, I need a very special kind of person to do that. Yeah. And you got a lot, you got all on your plate right now. I have so much on my plate. She doesn't have time. But some tea. One of my favorite things, I firmly believe that environment is like crucial to things, right? Yes. Our bodies remember environments. Mm-hmm. So I have a first date coffee shop and I have a breakup coffee shop. Oh yeah. I haven't been there in a minute, but they were both in Williamsburg where I used to work. Yeah. I had the coffee shop that, not one that I loved too much, but it was one that was cute that I enjoyed being in. That was my first day coffee shop. Mm. And then the coffee shop that I absolutely hated. I thought it was trash, everybody. I was like, okay, this is where I'm gonna break up with people. So this poor barista is probably new. Anytime I came in there with a guy that all something's happening, someone's gonna be crying. So, and people say that, that's like crazy behavior. I don't think so. Do you think it, I don't think that's crazy at all. I don't think it's crazy behavior at all. Not at all. I've seen a lot crazier on the streets here. Thank you. Alright, my final question for you, before we do our rapid fire shit, final question. Final question. What do you love the most about horror? I like horror movies because it gives young actresses a chance to, to be the the new girl. a lot of, horror movies. There's always a new talent, a new actress to be, to be shown off. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I think it's a great, a great movie to highlight really, really strong female actors. No, I, I think that's a great answer. Yeah. I especially like, because it's never about the guy. Let's be honest. Horror movies are always about the girl. Yes. Yes they are.'Cause they're more interesting. Way more interesting. Way more interesting. And we wanna see them fucking kick ass too. Absolutely. Feminism, I was, I would suggest Carol Clover, she's an academic that talks about the final girl and everything, but you don't like to think I was, yeah. You lost me. Yes. All right, Richard, you have graduated from the hard questions. Now we're gonna get to our rapid fire interview questions. Oh no. I do this with every person that's new on my show. Just a bunch of questions. Don't think about them, which shouldn't be hard for you. Oh, it should be easy. Okay. I'm scared. Whatever falls out of your mouth is what it is. First most important question, are we feeling hydrated today? We could be more. We could be more. Oh God. We just get a good swing. There's gonna be about two and a half minutes before we hit a burp. Everybody, maybe less to answer the first rapid Yes. Yes. You're feeling hydrated. I'm wonderful. Even though you're hungover. I, oh yeah. No, I'm hydrated. Good for you. I'm hydrated. Good for you. What's your go-to breakfast? None. I, you know what? No, no, no, no, no. I skip breakfast too. I don't, I don't, the first thing in my mind in the morning is not what I'm going to eat. Mm-hmm. It's what I'm going to eat like later. Like later. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I like skipping breakfast as well. Everybody, I work out fasted. All that stuff is way better. Yeah. I don't like, that's like heavy. Like I wanna Exactly. I like, I like my coffee, I like my caffeine. Mm-hmm. That's my go-to breakfast. That's my, yeah. That's my go-to breakfast. Yes. Yes. Okay. Perfect. Coffee. Coffee. Wonderful. Do you have a go-to movie snack? None. None. None. None. You just, I want to be dedicated to the movie. Like literally don't give me popcorn. I don't need water. I don't need candy. It's just my hands like this on chair. All of your senses. Okay.'cause if I'm locked in, I'm locked in. I don't want any distractions. Okay. Fair, fair enough. Would you rather watch a slasher or a supernatural movie? Oh, supernatural. Supernatural. Super supernatural. Yeah. Yeah. Do you prefer a movie that's more of a slow burn or one that has lots of jump scares? Jump scares, of course. Absolutely matches your energy. It was like slow burn. Now, do you prefer, trashy cult classics? Trash or pristi? This is rapid. Listen, I get it trashy as well. Do you have a horror movie, ick. Just something that you see in a horror movie that immediately you're just like, I fucking hate that tokens to Oh, yeah. Im just like, come on. Yeah. Like, I just, ugh. Thankfully we're kind of moving away from tokens sometimes. Who's an underrated final girl? Aren't they all kind of like overrated? It depends. I feel like there's some out there that are kind of underrated, that are overlooked. Because you, you have your big hitters, right? Like you have Sidney Prescott. Yeah, yeah. And Lori Strode and Nancy Thompson. But who would be, yeah, who would be on your, but people think, you know, I think about Kirsti Cotton from Hellraiser. Nobody really thinks about her. Oh. You know? Yeah. Grace from Reddy or not is pretty wildly loved as a, as a final girl. But yeah, just like maybe in those like forgotten horror movies, you know, the ones that aren't like the big ones. The big ones, yeah. how about the Alien from Alien? The, the Alien is the final girl. Yeah. Is the final girl. Well, she's like a mom, but she is, she's the killer. But from whose perspective here, that's true. That's a good point. From whose perspective? Who's perspective. You know what? I'll accept it. The Alien queen is the ultimate final girl. Although I don't think she dies, doesn't she? Next question. Okay. All right. So you are being chased by a killer. Do you run upstairs or do you grab a knife and fight? Grab a knife and fight? Of course you do. Would you survive a horror movie? No. No, I don't think so either. Would you ever have sex in a cemetery? Yeah, of course. Absolutely. Anybody who's on this program better have sex in a cemetery. That's actually gonna be my screening from now on. This isn't a, this isn't a show for babies. No, baby. No. Ah, which horror villain could get it? Oh, what's his name? Jigsaw. You would have sex with Jigsaw, John Kramer. Mr. Self-Righteous, or are you talking about the puppet? No, I, I feel like you feel like he, he makes situations. Oh, you want the kink? Yeah. He's like, he's kink. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what, that's why I want to do it. Think about all the creative ways he could tie you to the bed, but also he could get someone else.'cause he loves like playing with people too. Oh, that's true. Oh, so you want a third? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We saw you from across the bar and we liked your vibe. Get in the cage. It's the ideas. That's great. I, I'm attracted to his brain. Okay. Okay. Okay. Was not expecting that. Everybody, I really like people for their minds. So because I don't have, because I don't have That's true. You do need a thinker. Yeah. To balance you out. Which horror movie villain do you think would be the worst hookup? By Freddy. Really? Yeah. I don't really disagree with you, but I'm curious to know why. He's like scabby and then he comes back and like your nightmares and stuff? Mm-hmm. I don't, I don't want that around me. Oh yeah. There's no escaping that ex's? No. Like he's would always come backs. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Fair enough. What horror item would you use in bed? probably a good old knife. A good old, some knife play. Okay. Nice. All right. Just in three words, what's your villain origin story? Plants pushed. Reemergence. I'm gonna have to work really hard to decode that. Everybody to decode that myself. Plants pushed reemergence. Okay. Yeah. Okay. It's the three words. Three words. I followed the directions accepted. Thank you. So you're a killer. Oh, yes. What's your iconic look? I think I would do, I think a, a night, a good jumpsuit. Mm-hmm. Kind of like a Ghostbusters type thing. Okay. I feel like it would be like an eighties, like Okay. Kind of vibe. I would have a tool belt. And then just really, really loud boots. Loud boots. I want you, he hearing like clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk. Okay. And somehow you're running. I am still walking. Slowly. Yeah. But you got the power of, of plants pushed and reemergence behind you, whatever that means. Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly. What's your weapon? My hands. Okay. Alright. You like it? Intimate. You like having direct contact with your victims. Okay. What's your tagline? Photosynthesize this. Fuck you. This is so this, I know this. I'm loving this. Everybody, I'm, I'm laughing. I'm not laughing with you. I'm laughing at you. Yes. You should laugh at me. Oh gosh. Okay. Next question. What's your most embarrassing moment? My most embarrassing moment was in third grade Mrs. Kennedy's class. I was wearing a, a green PLA shirt. With, uh, green jeans. And matching like green socks and green sneakers. Like, it was just like a all, all green. I was really into this outfit. But I really needed to go to the bathroom. Oh, no. And I said, Hey, Mrs. Kennedy Uhhuh, can I use the restroom? And she is like, mm. I can't use the rest. Because back, back in the olden days, you couldn't, like, you had to, did they still do that? You had to ask permission. You had to get the hall passed and everything. Yeah. I don't know. That's like, it's mark bullshit. It's kind of weird, like, now that I think about it, I'm like, that's cruel. You shouldn't do that. Yeah. Like, I needed to really pee. It's not like I'm sneaking out. Exactly. Yeah. History class was boring. are you trying to give children UTIs? Ms. Kennedy? Mrs. Kennedy? Photosynthesize. How old was I? What grade was it? Third grade, eight. Third grade? Yes, yes. So 8-year-old Richard needs to go to the bathroom and he, and he was like, no, you can't. And so I pissed in my pants and I remember like my whole outfit was ruined. I remember like there was a puddle underneath there and I was like, I need to leave now. So right when that bell ranked to dismiss, I ran home. That's awful. And then no one said anything. This Kennedy didn't say anything about it. No one. Not one word. I feel like that's your villain. Origin horror story. Oh, I was, I was pushed, yeah. Three words. Mrs. Kennedy. Pissed. All right. What are you looking forward to right now? I'm looking forward to knowing what we did last summer. Oh, I'm looking forward to finding that out too. That convoluted ass storyline. Alright, final rapid fire question. Alright. Most important question. Oh, was that just in general? Yeah. Oh, oh, that was pertaining to What are you looking forward to right now? it's a nice farmer's markets. Yeah. There, there's one every weekend here in Bushwick and it's Monday, so I have to wait all week. I'm looking forward to it. You're looking forward to farmer's markets? Yes. Okay. Final question. Yes. What makes you a horror icon? W-H-O-R-R-O-R. Icon. What makes you a horror icon? I think,'cause I'm like smart but kind of dumb at the same time. Uhhuh. Yeah. And people like that person. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, this is the queer playground for all things. Scary, sexy and stupid. Stupidest part of it. Everybody listen. You don't gotta be smart to be a horror icon. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah. You can have big tits in a dream that's see. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yes. I think that's, yeah. That's why I meant icon. I love that because I'm like sexy, but. S Sexy, but stupid. I said that. Yes, yes, yes, yes you are. We already let them know we're talking about I know what you did last summer. So I was specifically looking for somebody who would be down to talk about, I know what you did last summer and you were very enthusiastic about it. So tell me, A little bit about why you were super stoked to get into I Know What you did last summer. Well, it was one of my favorite movies growing up. So during that perfect storm, the first horror movie that I watched was Scream. Mm-hmm. And so immediately after a twofer Oh wow. Double Whammied immediately after Scream came. I know what you did last summer. Mm-hmm. But it was the perfect storm because Buffy also came out and I was really, really into Buffy the Vampire Slayer. So it was the perfect mix. Yes. For one Richard Fam. I get that. Yeah. So it played a very integral role in, in my childhood. Mm-hmm. Especially during the summer when it came out. Yeah. You told me you read the book, right? I did. Yeah, it did. What did you think about the book?'cause I haven't read the book yet, so the book is very, very different from the movie. Yeah. Like it's more, uh, more, um. It's like mystery. Right? It's like mystery. Yeah. It's like a Who done it? Who, who does it? Was it? Which they're still like, I feel like Slashers now are like always a who done it. Yeah. But yeah, it But it wasn't about like the violence or the killing. Yeah. It was more so just like the psychological terror of them, running away from their past or something like that. Mm. Okay. Rather than like, oh, there's actually a killer. Okay. I see. Nice. Nice. did you read the book before you saw the movie? I read the book after I saw the movie. Oh, okay. So then were you disappointed either direction? I was very disappointed. Yeah. Yeah.'cause I thought there was gonna be like a chase scene. I thought, you know, like I was imagining Sarah and Michelle Geller in it. Yeah. I'm like, Sarah Michelle would never say this. no. That's awesome. I'm, I'm right there with you. I feel like I know you did last summer. Well, not one of my most favorite movies. I still, it does have a special place in my heart because of that era.'cause I think this one of all of the movies that were sparked from Scream's success. I feel like this is the one that most people know about. Mm-hmm. And reference. Mm-hmm. Like, it's the one that's the most closely associated with Scream. Yeah. And I think a huge part of that is, Kevin Williamson wrote both of them. He's the screenwriter. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. He wrote the screenplay for I Know What You Did Last Summer. Oh. And then we have our Hot, sexy teens. Yes. Yes. in Scream mm-hmm. I think it was just like Nev Campbell ju like there's only a few, uh Oh no, they were all teens. Yeah. But I felt like the, like, I know what you did last time was like, these are your, your teen Heartthrobs. Mm-hmm. It was like the, the four of'em. Well, it was the who's who of the nineties. I mean, we had all, we had, we had three. Three name big hitters. Jennifer Love Hewitt. Sarah. Sarah Michelle Geller, Freddie Prince Jr. Oh yeah. And then Ryan Philippine. Ryan Philippine with his, his two name Ha As Bitch. But it really, like, it was the who's who of that time. It was, yeah. Yeah. They were all taking off. Mm-hmm. And you know, with Scream like yeah. You had Drew Barry Moore, who was already very, very well established at that point. And But you had like older like figures in there too. Yeah, yeah. Like David Arquette. Yeah, yeah. Courtney Cox was like more of an older Exactly. And like they, yeah. Their mom, the, their stars mom was a character. Oh gosh. Maureen let that woman rest people, God, every movie, they're just like, let's drag Maureen Prescott through the fucking mud. That who My God. Yeah. No, this one, it's just, it felt like an Allstar cast. Yeah. We had all the hotties of the nineties. Mm-hmm. Now I'm just curious to know, what do you expect from this experience on horror icon from this?'cause we're gonna be watching the whole franchise, so there's three. Yes. So I know, I still know and I'll always know. And then we're also gonna hit up that we're, we're doing that one too. The new one that's coming out. Yeah, absolutely. Yay. So there's gonna be four movies that we're watching. So what are you, uh, what are you expecting from this experience? Well, I am expecting for you to explain the queer intersection of this movie. I'm expecting you to do all the work. That's what I expected. I'm just here to burp and look pretty, everybody. That's literally what I'm here for. I'm like, I like the movie. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. I'm, I am, I'm ready to be, to be mind blown. I'm ready for you to tell me how this intersects into queer culture. Yeah. And maybe like, why do I like it so much? I can't even explain it. Yeah, that's a really good question. Maybe we will answer that. It's like this is like a deep therapy session. Yeah. Thank you. Of course. I'm also, I'm excited to hear what you think. I think you're gonna stumble upon some queer things without knowing about it. Game on. Yep. That's my goal. Alright. My goal is to activate at least two of your brain cells by the time we are done with this. That's a lot. That's, I might explode. I think we can make that happen. I think we can make that happen. Alright. Excellent. So, that's it for our meet the co-host, episode. Everybody, everybody. Round of applause for Richard, Dan, plant Daddy MD Richard. Yes. Where can. Our listeners find you, you could find me on Instagram at Lord Fierce on TikTok at Plant Daddy md and you can also check out my website, plant daddy md.com. She has a website, so official most excellent. Yeah. And of course you can find me crybaby on the Instagram at crying without the G in under Public. And then follow horror icon, that's gonna be Horror Icon Pod, W-H-O-R-R-O-R, icon Pod. And yeah, I think that's it. Yeah. Why am I asking you? Anyway, everybody, we will see on our next episode where we talk about the first installment. Until then, cuties, don't be scared unless you're into that sort of thing. Bye. It was the first thing in my head. I'm obsessed with that., You know what? I wish I did. Okay. I wish I was like, until next time. Cuties photosynthesize this.